Are you considered a legal weapon if you are trained in martial arts or boxing?

Question

I was wondering if you are a amateur muay thai kickboxer can you get in trouble for using your training in a street fight or do you have to be pro to be considered "a legal weapon".

Answer 1

Of course. If you get in a fight and you injured the other person badly. When you appear before a judge, they will take into consideration if you have train in martial art or not. The outcome of a case could depend on it.

Answer 2

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Answer 3

No.



You are not considered a "legal weapon". Your pro or amateur training is supposed to give you more self control, not less.



Yes.



You can get into tons of trouble in a street fight whether you are trained or not.





1.The other guy might sue you for assault, and win in court, even if you did not start it. It is just his word against yours (sometimes even if you have credible, independant withnesses) because you never know how it will go in court. Is jail time worth the risk? Only you can answer tthat for yourself.



2.You or the other person might get seriously injured. There is no referee on the street to ensure personal safety, and no one to stop the other guy (and sometimes his five friends you never noticed) from stomping on you head for five minutes after you have been knocked out cold by that bottle from behind. Or, maybe you "win" but the other guy cracks his head open as he falls on the concrete. Are we prepared to live with that?



Even for legitimate self defence, we need to be aware of the law and also consider personal safety if we do use boxing or martial arts as a response to univited aggression. (self defence). A number of posters have made some good points about that already.



You can defend yourself, but the law will not tolerate an excessive response to aggression. And even if you know this and are very careful, there is still no guarantee that a judge will believe your story if it goes to court, and no guarantee that your training will be effective in saving you injury to yourself or the other party.



I am a boxer, but I think the best training for self defence is a course in self defence. You learn to avoid trouble in the first place. Street fighting is for idiots.(Too much risk, and no prize if you "win".)



I also think Judo and wrestling is probably the best reponse if there is no way to run (and there is usually a way to talk your way out of it or exit).



A judoka or wrestler can at least offer a controlled response that can be effective and not cause serious injury or look like a street fight to witnesses.



A striking response always looks like a fight, and can hurt someone (not the objective, surely, to some drunk guy who makes a pass at your girl). A wrestler's arm or wrist lock will convince most drunks to back off, and there is no shattered orbital for the lawsuit.



Peace is the objective on the street, battle sport in the ring.

Answer 4

A good approach is to familiarize yourself with escalation of force theory. Police officers and anyone with a concealed carry permit are held to these theories. In short, you may only use enough force to stop the threat. Equal counter force + a bit more. If the level of response to an attack shocks the conscience of the prudent person, you will find yourself being moved to the aggressor in the situation. At some point during the conflict, the threat of physical harm ceased or may reasonably be considered neutralized. If you continue, you become the aggressor. The same theory applies when an attacker turns to run away. The threat is over when the aggressor retreats. If you pursue him or shoot him in the back (in the case of gun play), you have now become the aggressor. If you beat them into submission, the threat is now over and anything further becomes aggression.



Prudent use of force is a responsibility that comes with any aggressive training.

Answer 5

I don't think you would be considered as a legal weapon. I think the police would look at it like, you as a pro or amateur martial artist are more able at fighting them someone who hasn't had any training. The basic laws around defense are. "Are you protecting yourself, are you protecting someone else, are you protecting your property." If you use REASONABLE force in any situation that conflicts with the above the law will support you. Providing you do not seriously injure the other individual and the force you use corresponds with the severity of the attack in one of the three situations, the law will not judge you any more harshly then any other individual, with training or not.

Answer 6

considered legal weapon trained martial arts boxing

Answer 7

Your best bet is to be humble and not a hot shot jerk. Although I like confrontation, the truth is that the police will conduct an investigation and if you have way more training in hand to hand combat,adding that you are an avid fighter, and people you know say you are very confrontational, you're screwed.



I was in a fight recently and I didn't go to jail because I never striked the guy. I had thrown him then pinned him because I didn't want anyone to get hurt especially because my g/f was there. But here's the thing that I told police (this guy was drunk but not falling over, more angry and very alert) That he came within arms reach and I just threw him down and pinned If I had began hitting him like what most people do, then I would have been arrested.



Hoped this helped somewhat.

Answer 8

No. You are neither a legal nor a lethal weapon under any circumstances. You are a person. However, if you hurt someone, and you have training, then the police, as Shihan J said, may be stricter. The idea is that as a trained fighter, you should have a better idea of the amount of force you need to subdue someone, and self defense stops being self defense if you use more than the minimal amount.

Answer 9

As Shihan said any training you have will be taken into account in a street fight, and quite honestly the person with training is probably going to be the one charged with assault. That being said there is a huge difference between a street fight, in which two people agree to fight, and self defense, where you have no choice because someone physicly attacks you.



As for the registering hands thing, anyone that tells you that you do has no clue. Go to the local police station and ask that, as police have a very tough job and would probably enjoy the laugh.

Answer 10

regardless of whether you are a pro or an amateur street fighting is consider assault even if both people agree to the fight. so yes you can get arrested for it.

in self defense you still have to prove it was self defense. all because, you claim it is doesn't not mean the police, da or courts will believe you. it is your word against theirs. even if he has a weapon. and you dont.



now as for the them legal weapon. you are not considered this. but they may look at your case differently because you are a trained fighter.





edit:>registering your hands as a lethal weapon is a myth, if you walk in to any police department and ask them, after they finish laughing they will tell you that it is a myth that has been going around for decades,

Answer 11

no. training is not the same thing like physical object used to enhance the fight performance. therefore, cars and staffs and batons and other things can be considered weapons. the other thing is that the usage of martial arts may be seen as unproportional violence of action, i.e. answering a drunk's shoulder to shoulder bang with a chuck norris styled roundhouse kick.

Answer 12

Everything is considered in a lawsuit but really ur not being taught well if u want to street fight(depends on ur experience).... it shouldnt b a problem if its self defense but u really never know nowadays because our governement is so ****** up and corrupted by mathematical ****...(robber breaks into a house and cuts himself on glass... sued the homeowner and wins)

well good luck on ur preplanned summons to jail haha jk

Answer 13

If you are a Muay Thai expert, then you actually have to get your fists certified. Which pretty much only means that you can't go around smashing people in the face. So, yes you are considered a "legal weapon."

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Answer 16

same laws apply whether trained or not.



Martial arts will keep you fit so you can leave scene chop-chop and not have to wait for police to turn up and so waste years of your life in court visits trying to prove innocence.

Answer 17

the best weapon is your mind and the sharpest sword is your spirit. My trainer says dont be foolish and get into a fight.

Answer 18

Do you mean "lethal weapon"?



The answer is no. It's a common myth, but that's all it is. There is no legal precedent for this.

Answer 19

If your specially trained and you completely pummel someone within an inch of there life. Your hands and feet could get registered as lethal weapons I think, then if you get in another fight you could be in some big trouble.

Answer 20

Yeah you can i think your consider a weapon or some Bs like that.

Answer 21

im no expert but if its self defence then i'd assume theres no laws.