Question:
All you martial artists out there, how hard do you go against females when you spar?
anonymous
2011-10-02 23:03:03 UTC
I'm just curious to see, i only go about 50 to 60 percent because I really dont want to hurt any of them, and this girl where I train keeps bugging me to fight harder when we spar. The last time a girl told a guy to go 100% at my mma gym she ended up with a dislocated shoulder in less than a minute. I just dont see how a 5'6 125 pound girl can actually say that she wants me to spar her at 100% when I'm 6'1 180 pounds. What do you guys think? Am I the only one who finds this ridiculous? And ladies, how hard would you like men to go when sparring?
Eight answers:
Kokoro
2011-10-03 05:52:43 UTC
the girl lost because you people treat her like a girl, you do her no good being sparing her too easy, what do you think is going to happen in the street do you think they guy that is about to beat her up and rape her will take it easy.

you people are clueless on how to train



i fight women the same way i fight them men, it depends upon there experience, i go just above what they can take, with some women we do full contact.



the last time a student took it too easy on brown belt women, he ended up with broken nose, and she was a more then a foot short then him
anonymous
2016-03-01 08:28:47 UTC
Everytime I throw a strike, I imagine I'm planting an idea in another person's head. If I do beat them, it'll put in spite, and jealously, and hatred, and a host of other problems. This guy might want to take his anger out on other people. Or he might come back with a knife. A host of issues resolve simply because I want to use violence. If I kill someone (and God forbid that, I don't even think I have it in me tbh), then I'm not only hurting that person. I'm hurting all his friends, his parents, his children, etc etc. I'm causing a giant ripple simply by performing a single action to satisfy a single purpose at a single moment. Don't get me wrong: someone rapes my sister, or tries to kill my mom or dad, I will do whatever is necessary. That little tidbit has been drilled into me since I was born. But I am willing to do whatever it will take to avoid violence, because I don't know what even a single little act of violence can bring. I could tell you all the horror stories right now. My friend's sah bum nim stopped a man beating his wife publicly once using his Tae Kwon Do. He would later read in the newspaper that the man murdered his wife at home in a fit of rage and shame. My Sifu, in his younger days, provoked a group of hoodlums and defeated them all with his Kung Fu brothers. Said hoodlums would later break into his house and put him in serious danger. My Kung Fu brother, in a fit of anger, fought back against someone repeatedly harassing his girlfriend in the mall. The thug walked out scot free, and my brother almost received jail time. He is still banned from the mall. There are many others, but the whole thing is that violence is unpredictable, and rarely gets the result you want. Would I like to beat down the mugger and walk off? Sure. Can I do it without getting hurt, or having legal complications, or getting shived a few weeks down the line? Questionable.
Shienaran
2011-10-03 01:30:04 UTC
And the reason the girl got a dislocated shoulder was probably because the guys at your dojo have been holding back and not preparing her how to properly protect herself from an all out attack by a male opponent, so that when she finally went against someone who did, she wasn't ready for it. I'm not saying you should go all out right away, but you should at least increase the level of difficulty she faces each time you spar to raise her skill level up and not give her false confidence. I myself have sparred against female students in the past and though I give enough resistance to keep it challenging, I don't go all out unless I'm instructed to by our instructor, usually during promotion tests or if the girl is someone whose skills I'm familiar with enough for me to be confident that she can take it when she requests it during sparring.
ironmongoose
2011-10-02 23:18:30 UTC
It depends on the person--not on the gender.



Variable:

- their size

- their skill

- their experience

- their temperament



I usually go light, because most women are smaller than me, and most have trained much less time than I have.



I've gone full-bore against females and still gotten beat, because that particular woman was very large and muscular.



The principles underlying how hard you train with someone are:

- informed consent

- safety

- respect

- compassion



If someone asks you to go full force with them, whether they can handle it or not, you should be asking them, "Why?" MMA classes are not where you get your jollies beating the hell out of each other. You're there to get good. You get good through progressive resistance and challenge. You experience progressive resistance and challenge when you're facing an opposition that is in that sweet spot between too easy for you and just too much to handle. That sweet spot moves as your skill improves. It's called flow.
Joey
2011-10-02 23:06:14 UTC
Just go enough to where its competitive. I'm 14. And I train at Teamquest with Chael Sonnen. And i'm really good at Jiu jitsu, so whenever I spar with them, I really just do positions on the ground more so than striking with them, and making it look like I can't submit them, but they think i'm going 100%
Richard S
2011-10-03 00:04:16 UTC
shouldn't there be like a gender specific class for these things?



based on hearsay from friends, i'd say 75%~
?
2011-10-02 23:30:40 UTC
Considerable research has investigated the effect of two exercise types on local bone mineral density (BMD) and total bone mineral content (BMC).

Most scientists conclude that BMD and BMC can be augmented through specific regimens, in particular, weight resistance and high impact training. Resistance training entails the use of barbell mass, elastic bands or bodyweight to load your bones via muscular contraction. Impact training is usually defined as actions like jumping and running where both feet leave and, upon descent, strike the ground.

We can’t see our endoskeleton. Common visual aids are x-ray imaging and anatomical models. These belie the complex dynamic nature of living bone. From the outside in, it consists of hard cortical bone, spongy trabecular bone and bone marrow, which is a mixture of fat, blood and lymph. Moreover, blood vessels interpenetrate all of these layers to transport raw and waste materials.



Stress to bone triggers a physiological response to create it. This mechanism is mediated by two kinds of cells. Osteoblasts buildup and osteoclasts breakdown bone. When your bones undergo a minimal essential strain (MES), new tissue generation initiates. MES is 10% of the force that fractures bone. Most daily activities, and soft slow styles of Self-Defense training, do not exceed this.

Peak bone mass is usually reached in the early thirties. This is the highest balance in your “bone bank” from which you withdraw as you age. That is not to say low bone density in your later years is irreversible. Indeed it is, to an extent, by exercising and eating appropriately. However, ideally you begin investing during youth to maximize bone deposit and then never stop in order to preserve it.



Train Variably



The layout of collagen fibers correlates to force vectors applied. By stimulating your bones in varying patterns, they become stronger overall than when subjected to a simple unidirectional strain. The greater intricacy and range of a gymnast’s routine builds more bone in different places and configurations than a runner’s.

In my experience, bones gradually start to regress after three days without impact training. This decline is exaggerated when I am travelling, fatigued or malnourished. Bone metabolism is ongoing so, if you stop, your osteoclasts will reverse the progress. It is best, and of course more fun, to train with another human being but possible to simulate impact training by yourself or on inanimate objects. You can knock your own forearms (ulna onto radius) or punch your palm (phalanges onto metacarpals). Beating wall bags will toughen your fists and wrists.



Four Intensities



MES varies person to person, which is why conscientious communication and group classes are essential. With sensitive people, apply the lowest common denominator of force, even if it is beneath your MES. On the other hand, if you’re approaching your limit, there is no shame in requesting your overzealous classmate to ease up. The classroom is not a real Self-Defense situation. Save bone breaking for life or death emergencies!



There is no convenient way to objectively gauge an exact amount of force. But there are four indicators over an intensity spectrum that you can utilize as subjective benchmarks. The first causes tingling which lasts minutes, the second causes soreness which lasts hours, the third causes bruising which lasts days, the fourth causes pain which lasts weeks.

Keep in mind the factors of specificity, progression and variability. They prescribe proper parameters of training that eventually forge your bones into both trustworthy sword and shield, which you can reliably wield for successful Self-Defense. Until then, be conscious, patient and diligent so as to take care of yourself and mutually benefit your training partners.



I value longevity in the art together. Towards achieving this collective potential, the core concepts of bone health introduced above are crucial to consider.



I am a student of Grandmaster Sifu Klaus Brand, International Academy of WingChun. We prioritize Self-Defense using WingChun. The above information is a article from Sihing Paul Wang, he is the most qualified instructor in our system here in the US and I wanted to share this article with you to provide a insight to your training and I hope that it helps! Many Martial Artist do not realize that these events take place with training and even though you do not train in our style of Martial Art I know that you can benefit from your training knowing what takes place because knowledge is Power!!



After reading the above information and working with a girl or teen if you are sparring and they ask for you to go 100% gradually increase your attack power until you notice or she tells you that it is at a point that makes her or her body uncomfortable and remember that women can have babies and men cannot so their bodies and mindset to be able to deal with pain works differently than ours. I train wit
anonymous
2011-10-03 05:05:44 UTC
I go hard. Very hard. Very very very very.........hard


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