Martial arts in security!?

Question

So I'm looking into some sort of martial arts , I've always wanted to but have always been worried about being singled out for being sh*t haha , now I wanna get into something like that to build my confidence an so on , I work in security so I'd like something that'd benefit me in that aspect , I like the idea of something that involves a lot of counter attacking , I've been looking at krav maga , but was put off a little when one of the other security officers explained its just basically the proud art of fighting dirty , I'd like an altertnative , some sort of army/special forces kinda of thing really interests me! All answers appreciated!

Answer 1

MMA would work best. In the absence of that, BJJ or judo can work really well in a situation like yours. Krav Maga, as it's taught in the U.S., doesn't really amount to much, because it's not even close to what's actually taught in the Israeli army.

Answer 2

If you work in security, you can't counterattack. Anyone who practices Martial Arts for any length of time can tell you there are special sections in the law for people who are considered to be lethal weapons by themselves due to their training. I've been practicing 30 years, if I did anything but take someone down if they attack me and then run away and call the police I'd go to prison. Just because I can break any bone in your body doesn't mean I can.



Now as a security officer you're going to be wearing a uniform and probably have some kind of belt with material related to your job on it. You're going to be wearing boots and possible even be issued a weapon depending on the state you work in and where you work security. I would go with Judo, specifically because the goal is to use your opponents force to end the fight quickly without hurting yourself or them. Also the Japanese police force is all trained in Judo.

Answer 3

i know a lot of police and security people that have successfully used tkd, karate, kung fu and many other traditional arts



what matters is the quality of training and how you train not the style. i have worked in the secutry industry for close to ten years now. more on the cctv end, and i have trained many police officers as well as security guards and bounces.

awareness is an important trait as well as training.

also you need to remember you can be held liable for any injuries you cause. and going to the ground alone is not the best. they are rarely alone and usually have friends. i have seen plenty of things go wrong when a lone police or security guard goes to the ground. one of them was a retired marine who never use to ask for help until one incident.

Shadam your the only idiot here



and btw shadam ufc and mma eliminate hundreds of technqiues, they eliminate the entire system of small circle jujutsu, so its not one or two techniques.

tsd and tkd are a lot different and not the same. if you trained them like you claimed you would know thid

Answer 4

If you are in security, more important than your fighting ability would be your awareness skills. Being able to understand your situation and conditions far out weigh how tough you are. As far as what fighting skill or martial art you chose to follow, remember... The goal is to control the situation and win.

Krav Maga, Judo, or any of the other 30 styles of defending oneself and those they are to protect are tools for you to do that job. Your choice of a style to 'Counter Attack' tells me that you will have a lot of paper work to fill out after the incident and your days in security work will be limited.

Answer 5

Sik Paldakan Do " the way of feinting kicks". martial arts is essential not only to security officers but to all who is working in the security field as well as to civilians. Nowadays I prefer to call it reality based self defense rather than martial art itself, just to be certain in this topic since we're talking about martial arts in security...

I have been in this art since I was 8 yrs old until I become instructor at 16 , then executive protection instructor then an agent.... All I can say is anybody who's working in this field should know self defense, SECURITY from its word , secure.... how can one provide security if one cannot even secure himself? How can one protect somebody if one cannot protect himself? and so on.........

Many will not agree, but I"m telling you this based on my experience...

Ian Sanchez

founder/instructor

Sik Paldakan Do

the way of feinting kick





anyone interested ? contact me at [e-mail]

all I can guarantee is a good quality self defense......

Answer 6

You need something that has a grasp on grappling.

For years I worked in security, and the grappling of Shotokan always saw me through.

It is more important by at least double that you find a good instructor well versed in protection and security, than the name of some style. You can call it anything, but it needs to work.

Answer 7

Hi there



The principles from any art will transfer if you know how and when to use them.



There are however other specialist courses now run purely as additonal training for Police and security officers. One such system is S.I.S. Not only does it teach restraints but is also teaches handcuff control, batton, and car extraction etc.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OePVbz-WgPA



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJRAcD7RtVo



Best wishes



idai

Answer 8

I worked in the security field for 25 years and 11 of them working in Executive Protection, where I escorted Fortune 500 corporation execs, celebrities, special events in the Fashion Industry and Concerts, assigned to VIP quarters.



I trained in Classical Okinawan and Chinese Arts.



They never failed me.



@shadam - you're a shoemaker. You have no experience to be giving advice here.

Answer 9

Look, I've been doing security work for 14 years. My background is Taekwondo/ Hapkido. I have not trained formally for many years, but the basic standing straight arm-lock, or wrist-lock variation is something I have used on numerous occasions over the years. In my job training, we go over these holds, as well as "come alongs" or escort holds, and hammerlock or shoulder lock variations. We are not encourage to strike, but sometimes it can't be avoided, as it's a natural reaction to hit back when someone hits you. However, If we have to hit, we are encouraged to use open hand strikes, elbow or forearm strikes, and hammer-fists, usually to "green" (non-lethal) target areas which are mostly large muscle groups. As a security officer, our goal is to protect ourselves, our clients, our co-workers and end our shift in one piece not to beat the hell out of someone, "win" fights, or come off looking like a tough guy. We are responsible for the safety of our client, but we also have a responsibility to restrain or detain perpetrators in the least harmful way possible. This is mostly to avoid law suits. Breaking a suspects nose, busting his lip, cutting him open is a sure way to be accused of excessive force and get yourself fired.



So "they" are going to tell you to pursue the current "Flavor of the Month" arts like Krav Maga or MMA. If that interests you, so be it. The best for your professional development, in my opinion are:



Judo

Traditional Jujitsu (Japanese) or "modern" Jujitsu (BJJ ) I would actually steer you toward Gracie Jujitsu.

Aikido (lots of joint manipulations and take downs as well as circular, evasive movement)

Hapkido



There are probably a couple of others, but these are probably the most readily available, and applicable to our profession. Good Luck.



Edit: @ Shadam:



Well, yes, I have worked as a "Mall Cop" , was quite good at it, and had fun doing it. I've also worked loss prevention, and currently work hospital security. If you do your job properly, in a professional manner, you don't have to worry about someone hurting you, because you don't have to fight. When I have had to defend myself, I have done so quite well. I haven't been "hurt" yet; but it can happen to anyone, no matter what kind of skills they have, or percieve that they have. I know what has worked, and continues to work, for me.



As far as you being better at TSD than I am at TKD; you might well be. I have not practiced in years, as I am a hard working adult with a family to support, and little time for recreational training. I don't know what the tournament scene is like these days, but I think 15 years ago, I could have given you a run for your money.



RESPECTFULLY yours,

CM77

Answer 10

I worked in security and I have to say for what I was getting paid, I would never try to break up a fight. It's not worth needing medical treatment for what little I was getting paid.

Answer 11

Krav Maga is Israeli martial arts combat training.

Answer 12

yes this should be a requirement as its not in the police academy

as guess its who u know and not what u know

i would suggest karate as the base and work from there

Answer 13

stfu cm77 your a idiot and are most likely a mall cop whos gunna get hurt if you need to defend yourself. the marines use there version of mma. i practiced tang soo do for years which is the same as tkd and i bet im better at it then you too. mma isnt a fad. ufc 1 had 2 rules no biting no eye gouging they made some the best fighters from each style compete. mma is everything thats effective and nearly every single art has huge flaws mma is mixed martial arts so we keep what works and get rid of the bs

Answer 14

Do Kung Fu

Answer 15

Do boxing and bjj. Or you can just do mma which covers everything