Boxing vs MMA (now before you say this whole thing is over done, hear me out)?

Question

First let me state that i am a boxing fan BUT i highly respect mixed martial arts and i like some of their fights, but to me, mma is boring. only my opinon, i think the MMA fan base will still grow strongly.

Ok, so I know everyone asks, BOXING VS MMA!!! BOXING VS MMA!!!
well, i really just wanna know some answers on both sides....here is the facts, that i have researched (you can too, I'm not biased)

FACT: MMA IS FAR SAFER THAN BOXING

everyone states that the James Toney fight was a good test of Boxing vs MMA...now that to me is not fair!!! think about it, James Toney was old, BUT Randy Coutore was older (by five years i think, not sure about exact age difference) so how was it unfair? BOXING DAMAGES THE BODY MORE! look it up, the average prizefighter in a 12 round fight takes 500 punches to the head...show me and MMA match that does that, you cant find one, but if one of you can, please let me know. James Toney had 84 professional boxing matches.....come on guys, would you rather be a 5 years older or take THAT amount of punishment before entering the fight? Randy only had 30!!! lets see how good randy does after 84 mma matches...oh wait...we wont.

all im saying is that James Toney is not a good example...he was a wash up who knew he couldnt capture boxing glory and thought mma would be easy, and it wasnt, plain and simple. and if anyone can tell me how it was a good example i would like to read it.

the only fair competition would be if the boxer is in his prime, but that wont happen because they dont want to take the pay cut! (cant blame them)

my view?

a boxer, in an MMA match, will ALWAYS have a punchers chance...an MMA fighter, in a boxing ring will have, (lets face it) NO chance.

Answer 1

Debate is one thing that has no end.



On any bouts, a person that has great knowledge on certain competition, if it is being run under the rules of any combat sports, then an edge and advantage runs on the part of a fighter that favor to the kind ability he has gain.



But if it is in the street, then such is unpredictable kind of scenario, anybody could win, but for sure, a skillful warrior will conquer above the other.





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Answer 2

1) Your premise that MMA is "safer" is false. MMA is not safer, but in reality more dangerous. Sure, the Average boxer takes more punches to the face, but this is because MMA involves submissions. I say that taking 500 punches to the head is less damaging than multiple breaks. A Kimura, for instance, can not only pop the shoulder, but will tear the ligaments, crack ribs, and damage the elbow. After only two time, you would be in need or surgery. This is clearly a more dangerous situation.



MMA results in less injuries because of the tap out feature. Were boxers to include a feature that would force the fighter the throw in the towel or risk never fighting again, you better believe less punches would land. Also, a good number of those 500 punches are lighter jabs.



2) A "puncher's chance" applies in both scenarios. Whether you want to admit it or not, both sides have roughly equal chances of being successful in the other sport. Your comparison is like saying that baseball players are better than cricket players because a cricket player could never hit a baseball, but a baseball player could hit a cricket ball. It could very well be true, but the baseball player will never do well in a cricket match and will an extremely hard time dealing with it. The rules and set up makes it very hard for one to just cross over.



3) I agree, the Couture vs Toney was not a good test, no single fight will ever be a good test. I bet you that, when given a large enough sample size, you will see near identical win ratios. Let's put up any prime boxer vs any prime MMA fighter. In an MMa match, the MMA fighter will win. In a boxing match, the boxer will win. The entire argument is fruitless. Let people like what they like and enjoy what they enjoy.

Answer 3

MMA is not a style. It is a mix of styles. It depends on the fighter. If a Mixed Martial Artist fought against a Boxer, they would have the huge advantage of being trained in multiple fighting disciplines. But if the boxer is very well trained, then he/she could win the fight. All the do is punch, so if they time their punches well, then they probably would win. MMA fighters usually do some kind of kickboxing so they have more targets than a boxer, such as leg kicks. If the MMA fighter was smart, they wouldn't go and try to out-punch a seasoned boxer. They're probably attack the legs, or try to go to the ground where they have the advantage.

Answer 4

I see where you are coming from and I think learning striking is a great idea. I came from TKD background as well before starting MMA and I found that I was lacking in grappling. I did learn a lot of ground work in the MMA class, but I was always weak in takedowns. Due to personal reasons I also had to stop MMA, but that lead me to start grappling and I have been getting much better at throws now. But I do miss striking quite a bit since I only practice solo now based on my previous lessons. Oh and as long as you have a good instructor I think learning kickboxing will be definitely be helpful.

Answer 5

First off,MMA IS SAFER OVERALL.Strikes are generally spread out all over the body,not just the head like in boxing.And a broken arm from a kimura is nothing compared to hundreds of heavy punches to the head.



Second,there are good boxers and and bad boxers,good MMAists and bad MMAists.Put a good boxer in with a bad MMAist,and the boxer has the edge.Other way around,it's vice versa.



Third,BOXING IS PART OF MIXED MARTIAL ARTS.There are many MMAists who prefer standing and striking in the cage,like Dan Hardy,Nam Phan,and Paul Daley.They,along with Nick Diaz,Georges St. Pierre,and Josh Koscheck,are all good boxers.



Fourth,Toney and Couture were BOTH far past their prime when they fought,so it was fair.Don't make excuses.



Fifth,this debate is stupid.The MMAists who bash boxing for being too easy are stupid,The idiot boxers who bash MMA because they think it's "gay" and that ground fighting is an "easy way out" are stupid,homophobic closet cases.



End of story.

Answer 6

Being trained in mma is for some strange reason,, a good art to be trained in when competing in an mma event. Yes a boxer has a punchers chance, and I am seeing more striking then I did in the old days of mma.



ONe thing is for sure, if you don't have boxing skills,,, i'm gonna say you dont really have any fight skills, its your first line of skill. If you can't box, you don't need to do mma.

Answer 7

This was answered a while back.



Boxing Vs. MMA



It's apples and oranges. Different rules, different training, different rounds.



Restrict the MMA fighter and the Boxer wins. Open the rules and the MMA Fighter wins.



Let's stop the nonsense and just recognize that these are two completely different fighting disciplines.



The Lake Charles Martial Arts Team,

http://www.lcmartialarts.com

Answer 8

12oz vs 4oz gloves, of course boxers take more hits, relying solely of punches, and punches wrapped in pillows will extend the amount of punishment one can take.

The most pro MMA matches anyone has had was about 300, but the reason why people, unless they travel a lot and do ironman stuff, usually have about 30 to 40 is that the sport is smaller and newer. Loads of Boxers have 200 smokers and amateur bouts, MMA as we know it is like 20 years old. Jesus, Chuck retired recently and he was like 1st wave of proper MMA.



Edit: Haha. Ali fought Inoki, a wrestler and Karateka, in a match should have been an mma one, but Ali changed the rules just before they fought, banning kicks whilst standing, reducing the grappling Inoki was allowed to do etc, effectively neutering him, Inoki nailed Ali with so many up kicks from his back that Ali had to have surgery to remove the blood clots, and many believe that his legs were never quite the same.

Answer 9

MMA all the way bru! If they have the same experience the MMA can defend himself in a stand up poisition yet if he takes the boxer to the groudn teh boxer wont know **** and will tap out

Answer 10

MMA...boxers have tried to come in and still get beat...now i am not saying that all boxers would lose...but you have to be so much more well rounded to fight in MMA

Answer 11

pick what u like and run with it....





i love boxing....i dont care about mma





end of story





neither is "better" than the other