best martial arts to counter brazillian ju jitsu?

Question

Hi,
Long story short I have an older violent brother who is trained in BJJ.

anyway whats the best martial arts to counter him?

Answer 1

First thing's first: I'm with the guys who are saying that if you want the violence to stop, learning a martial art isn't going to be as useful as outside intervention (counseling, police, etc). You can't go, "wax on, wax off" for three weeks and never walk in fear again, no matter what classic 1980's movies teach you. Changing the other guy's behavior will yield a more permanent solution.



Now, to your actual question: there are no martial arts that automatically counter others. You fight the man, not the style. But you have to at least know how to defend against his strengths before you can effectively create an opportunity for offense. Time and time again, the best defense for BJJ in particular is studying BJJ.

Answer 2

1. How many people believe that martial art systems were much simplier than they are today back in 1900, 1800's and 1700's? and why? I think they were in general less specialized, because they were actually used for defense. Because of that they needed to cover a wider variety of attacks and defenses, . With the current popularity of MMA do you feel that martial arts is losing the honor, respect, code of ethics and proper culture that made it so great? You better believe it.

Answer 3

This sound familiar......., I started Karate at 12, because my brother 15, was taking Judo lessons and beating the crap out of me.... I can tell you that nothing good came out of it... the fight didn't stop nor we get less aggressive with each other... we kept at it until past our teens.... Now looking back I realized that it takes two to dance, also to fight.

as for the telling, I told my mom, my dad, my karate teacher his judo teacher but we never seem to stop fighting and for the most stupid things.



Now that I'm over my 50 I see back and wouldn't have it any other way... enjoy your brother, even if he is somewhat rough in his plays. However if he is mean or cruel, then you need to take other actions because that is not a game.



Note.: my brother never really hurt me, any blood spilled was more an accident than the mean intention.

Answer 4

I will tell you a story about a good friend of mine. He actually faced a BJJ guy that he knew. This guy had 100 amateur fights that is my friend. They went in his basement and had a friendly session of style vs style. The first face off the BJJ guy tied my friend up and submitted him quickly. They went again my friend faked a punch and the guy made his move. My friend squarely hit him in the face and busted his nose up. The fight ended then and there. I told my friend that that was his only chance because otherwise the guy would have tied him up and submitted him. There is no such thing as the perfect style. As great as BJJ s it has its limitations. These MMA guys are training in take down defense and that style is not as deadly standing upright. I would say learn all ground takedowns submissions striking with hands feet elbows etc the more complete you are the better.

Answer 5

More jiu-jitsu, honestly the only counter is to know judo/jiujitsu right back. Be aware of the technique applied and the best way to escape. Put lots lots of time in training and meanwhile, tell your mother.



I've never seen jiujitsu make someone violent, usually it has a calming effect, your brother can't possibly have trained much

Answer 6

There really is no best style. You just have to be better trained, in whatever style you choose. TKD works very well for me, but that's due to 20+ years of very good instruction. You have to select from what is available, locally, to you. The quality of the school is what counts, not the style.

Answer 7

BJJ itself is probably the best martial art in terms of groundwork. The only way to beat him if he gets you on the floor is to use your own BJJ skills. No way around it.



However, BJJ itself is a very impractical real self defense art. For example, try training in krav maga. BJJ fighters will most likely go for the double legged or single legged takedown. Then when you are on the floor, its easy win for them. However, if they tried any kind of takedown on a krav maga fighter, the bjj fighter would be receiving devastating blows to the spine, knees to the face, elbows to the back of the skull and neck, cupped slaps to the ears and kicks to the groin.



To summarise, BJJ itself is pretty much unbeatable on the floor unless you yourself starts training in it.

However, BJJ fighters would find it rather difficult against a krav maga fighter who is trained to kill.

REMEMBER

BJJ is a sport.

Krav Maga is used by the Israeli and South Korean special forces.

Answer 8

I think you need more than just learn martial arts. Family counseling and the intervention of police if things get out of hand.

Answer 9

None. Your defense lies entirely in your ability to learn, and your instructor's ability to teach.



Now, if your brother is violent, and you are the object of that violence, then it would seem to me you're the victim of domestic violence. Thus, your self-defense relies entirely on the police - for the time being. Give them a call and find out what your options are.

Answer 10

Boxing.

Answer 11

I take karate and Japanese Ju Jutsu and I think they counter Brazilian Ju Jutsu well. It's not uncommon for people who use BJJ to go for the legs in order to get the other person on the floor. It's a throw in Judo, Traditional Ju Jutsu and it's used in BJJ. There are moves in both Karate and Traditional JJ to counter this. Also it is the knowledge of the human body and how to manipulate it from Traditional Ju Jutsu that BJJ comes from. So it makes sense that someone who does Traditional JJ would fare well on the ground with someone who does BJJ compared to someone who does like boxing because BJJ and Old JJ are cut from the same cloth. Karate counters it well in a similar way but at the same time different. Karate was a style designed to counter Traditional Ju Jutsu, a style that focuses on strikes in order to overcome the defensive ways of a grappling style such as Old JJ and at the same time has methods to counter grappling moves. In both karate and Old JJ's curriculum you learn to counter different chokeholds and grappling moves a lot of which you'll see the same thing on the floor. Because of this if a BJJ user has a Karate/JJ user on the floor they might have the upper hand in that they know how to wrestle on the floor better, but Karate/JJ users know how to react to this type of thing. Where to hit in order to get the other person to release their grasp, where to hit to incapacitate the enemy. I'm sure the same could be said for other styles but this is my argument for Karate-do and Japanese Ju Jutsu.



Another way you could counter BJJ is with Judo, Sambo, Wrestling, or any other grappling style. To fight fire with fire in a sense. Judo has similar advantages to what I said about Karate and Japanese Ju Jutsu and some other advantages of its own. Judo is similar to what I said about Karate and Old JJ in that it and BJJ are cut from the same cloth and have similar knowledge in how the human body bends and works. An advantage unique to Judo is that it has groundwork in it. In fact it is the groundwork from Judo that BJJ is based off of and at the same time Judo users know how to throw in ways that are unknown to BJJ users. BJJ is stronger in its ground grappling while Judo users are stronger in their standing grappling. But Judo users also have some knowledge in ground grappling which gives them an upper hand in a way. Sambo, wrestling, submission grappling, and etc. are all good styles to counter BJJ with. They are all ground grappling styles and it really comes down to which person is better at it. Sambo is very similar to BJJ and the answer to this lies in both styles' origins. They are both different takes on the groundwork from Judo, they are both different answers to the same question.



It's not about the best style, it's about who is the better Martial Artist. It both depends on yourself and who you train under. How much work you put in is what you'll get out of it and the mastery your teacher has in the way of fighting will reflect on you.

Answer 12

Judokas throw BJJ guys around like they re nothing. BJJ guys are the best on the ground, but Judokas tend to ragdoll them standing. Wrestlers can also do well against BJJ guys.

Answer 13

u need to box him

learn some boxing techniques and combinations depending

if your south paw ,straight , hook ,hook etc. etc

most jits guys don't like to be punched

Answer 14

catch wrestling or kickboxing- (opposite appraoches.)

Answer 15

You can only use what you know.