Question:
Samurai vs Knight who has the edge?
anonymous
2010-04-01 17:27:47 UTC
I saw that World's Deadliest Warriors, I thought they tend to mismatch fighters.
So in a poll

Japanese Samurai (circa 1600) in armor armed with Katana
vs
German Knight (circa 1450) in full plate armed with hand and a half sword
your thoughts
Fifteen answers:
anonymous
2010-04-01 18:28:11 UTC
I think you guys horribly underestimate those european medieval warriors , probably due all that hollywood bs tales . Knights were noblemans who spent all their lives form childhood to old age in war games and actual wars . The same like their asian counterparts . Weapons tactics were little different ( weight of weapons ) but with proper training , they were the same deadly sob`s .

And consider this : when japan opened to the west , there are many documented cases of duels between samurai and dutch and others swords men ,and guess what many samurai LOST .!!!
anonymous
2016-03-14 01:42:06 UTC
Definitely the samurai 1. Samurais rode on horses too. 2. Samurai armor is alot lighter, yet still tough. This means that the samurai is MUCH more agile than the knight whos wearing 70 pound armor. 3. Japanese craftsmen were experts at swordmaking, and katanas are made from THE hardest steel. The incredibly tough sword can cut through the knights probably shorter sword. 4. Knight would get tired quicker, as wearing all that armor makes you incredibly hot inside. 5. The samurai can not only move alot better, but he can also see better as they dont have a helmet that restricts vision. 6. If both the knight and samurai lose their weapons, and have to fight empty handed, the samurai has the DEFINITE advantage. The samurai of japan all learned the art of jujitsu, which undoubtedly the knights didnt have. Jujitsu will give them a major advantage in hand to hand fighting. Samurai wins!
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2016-11-12 13:44:35 UTC
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2015-08-10 07:40:30 UTC
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RE:

Samurai vs Knight who has the edge?

I saw that World's Deadliest Warriors, I thought they tend to mismatch fighters.

So in a poll



Japanese Samurai (circa 1600) in armor armed with Katana

vs

German Knight (circa 1450) in full plate armed with hand and a half sword

your thoughts
Aavaleon
2010-04-01 17:41:21 UTC
This would be a very tough answer. Samurai were fast and precise, with all that armor a knight would have a tough time keeping up, and would tire out quickly. However, the katana is purely a slashing weapon, so I'm not sure they could get through the armor. Due to the knights basically having a sword and shield against a faster opponent who could find weaknesses in armor, I'd say the Samurai. The samurai are very precise and fast, I believe they would find weaknesses such as lightly armor areas such as joints or at least tire the knight out and be able to disarm him. The only real advantage I see the knight having is all the armor. While heavy, the samurai would have difficulty cutting through it, and if the samurai were permitted to use a naginata or similar spear I would say the samurai has a huge advantage. However, katana vs plate armor is a tough choice. I would just say the samurai would not get injured due to the slow movements of the well-armored knight and would at least tire the knight out enough to disarm and eventually kill him.



The show did mismatch a knight against an opponent with a gun, that was not a fair fight. However, just from what they covered of both groups (I have seen the knights and samurai, I love that show xD), I would say even that program they use would say the samurai would win. They are just too fast and precise for someone slowed by all that armor. Now, give the knight just some ordinary chain mail and a shield and sword, and the samurai using a katana with some chain/plate has little hope since chain mail is designed against slashing weapons. That's my opinion anyway, hope I gave some insight. :D



EDIT- I forgot to mention the training.. Duh.. Samurai train 24 hours a day and are ready to die in battle, this is defined in the Bushido. Knights do not train nearly as much and fight "not to lose". The Bushido states "If you fight not to lose, then surely you will. If you fight expecting to lose and trying to win, then you will win." (Not a direct quote but close..) The samurai would use martial arts and training to defeat the knight. I strongly believe practice and skill will overcome armor or fancy weapons.



To Gerard and Jurena - I do not underestimate the knights, they were deadly especially with their strength, however I just feel the knight's armor and lack of speed would not be enough to help them win. They can't kill what they can't hit, and although their armor is thick and the samurai cannot 100% get to them, the samurai can always find weaknesses in the armor such as weaker spots like joints, or the head. If the knight wears a helmet, then the vision is severely restricted and the samurai can at least bash him in the head until he gets knocked out. xD My point is they are too restricted by armor and the samurai is too precise and would be able to find the weaknesses. Please, if you can disprove this, do! I would like to learn.



The more modern encouters cannot be very reliable because when the Japanese did move further west, guns were emerging and there was no more technique. Again, please disprove me if you can but this question was about the 1450 knights and the 1600 samurai, so I feel speed and precision overcomes thick armor and heavy weapons.



The samurai mainly used horseback also, they were mounted archers, and even had weapons that were designed for taking enemies off horseback. Limiting them to 1 weapon each should keep the rest fair as well, at least give the samurai his horse as well. Even on a horse, with his right weapons the samurai could easily throw the knight off and take it to the ground.



Katherine - Did you know that the samurai were almost all mounted in their early eras? They also fought each other, so they knew how to take enemies off horseback very well. Limiting the weapons, just using the natural armor and most common weapon, I'd say giving the knight a horse and leaving the samurai with just a katana is unfair. Maybe a nodachi or naginata to even the odds. If the knight is on horseback then I would say it would probably be a short fight unless the samurai retreated, but again, that is not the fair fight matching two elite warrior classes while limiting their arsenal.



And again, I would like to say that using what the show covered on both warriors, I believe the samurai would win. The question was originated by the show "Deadliest Warrior" and based on that, Knight vs Pirate is not fair but I still was impressed with the knight. Samurai vs Vikings was a pretty good fight, and the samurai proved their worth. So, based on what the show covered of the two groups, and what I personally know and believe, I would say the samurai would win the majority of the time if it were a fair fight.



I would also like to say sorry for such a long post! It just takes more then a paragraph or two to get my point across. ^^ I agree you give the upper hand to the side you favor most, and I do favor samurai more I will admit that, but I like knights as well, in my opinion two of the best warrior classes ever.
Tom
2015-02-11 11:08:05 UTC
knight because they wore full plate with chainmail underneath and a thick padded jacket so cuts get stopped and no blunt trauma, also for stabbing the samurai would have to get past a knights shield which aren't easy to remove, further more the knight rode to battle on a massive war horse that was trained to kill for itself so it too was a weapon. samurai yes were very skilled and were very good at what they did, which was facing down fairly unarmoured soldiers. also for the people who say that knights are slow, i can tell you that no they are not, there bodies are trained from childhood to withstand it and be able to run across a battlefield for hours on end, so yeah they werent slow and heavy as if they were they'd have died right away.
?
2010-04-02 01:16:54 UTC
This is a stupid question. The Knight would have been on a horseback in 1450 - he would have fought from horseback; this is why all the heavy plate, he's avoiding arrows and getting the height advantage. The horse does the work, so the knight wouldn't have been slowed by his armour. If you get the knight on the ground then I really couldn't say, but there's no way the knight would start from there.
nosta3824382
2014-05-26 08:40:47 UTC
There were test that prove katana can penetrate through full plate .http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDkoj932YFo



But I think samurai will lost because German have better armor .



I had some question.Why you limit the weapon of samurai .Make him use only katana .In 1600 samurai could use all weapon provide in Japan Yari(spear) Yomi(bow) Tanegashima(matchlock).If samurai can use Tanegashima as primary and katana as secendary weapon they can win.
?
2010-04-01 18:35:40 UTC
Jurena has some great points.



I am partial to the knight for many reasons. The difference in hand to hand I think just comes down to who your favorite is. But the real deciding factor here is campaign warfare. This is something that the Japanese would fail at, and something the Europeans were great at.
john
2014-12-09 01:29:25 UTC
it depends on conditions what armour commander or footsoldier physical ablities and weapons but ill say samurai
Random Dude
2010-04-01 22:41:01 UTC
Knight for the same reason someone stated and the knight was better armored.
Brad
2010-04-01 17:29:42 UTC
German Knight because of the armor.
Tony valente
2010-04-01 22:50:05 UTC
samurai was 100lbs. germans were way to big, mean and strong! samurai only beat japs. germans beat everyone in europe.
Luke
2010-04-01 17:42:11 UTC
I would go with the Samurai. The Katana is a great sword and their martial arts skills were great. They spent a most of their time training. They also had the code of Bushido which kicks the crap out of the code of chivalry.
yoyomkm
2010-04-01 17:40:25 UTC
sorry i dont watch World's Deadliest Warriors


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